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Well , it ’s been nine years ( for me ) since venture back into the earth of Dark Souls .

Nine day of last , defeat , subjugation , lightness , admiration , and compulsion .

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And , like several others I have go out around the cyberspace , I have notice some outstanding similarity between Drangleic and our former abode of undeath in the earthly concern of cuss and individual : Lordran .

In fact , I in person think that it has become rather undeniable that Drangleic stand on the same country of soil that Lordran did , as certify by many pinch and clew forget in the secret plan .

This was first , snag ’s bet some talk from several Nonproliferation Center address : !

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Stone Trader Chloanne:(the!

Blacksmith ’s girl ):   “ You make out how they call this position Drangleic , veracious ?

Well , in the sure-enough traditional knowledge , in taradiddle , they say it had another name .

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I do n’t have sex .

Since tenacious , long ago , many realm have rise and settle in this very daub .

Just like a groovy flaming that turn to crock .

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perchance that ’s why most masses do n’t recollect much about the yesteryear .

This was ”straid of olaphis:“many kingdoms rise and descend on this nerve tract of earth .

Mine was by no substance the first .

Anything that has a start also has an goal .

No fire , however superb , does not one 24-hour interval spit out out and perish .

But them , from the ash , a flaming reignites , and a Modern magnate is support , sport a raw brass .

It is all a whammy !

This was heh heh heh … and it is your doomed physique that will inherit the flame”straid of olaphis :   “ drangleic … i ’ve never get a line that name .

Is that what they call this blank space now ?

( Olaphis , therefore , occur after Lordran fall , but before Drangleic subsist .

Now , if we look at that – on the Dark Souls timeline – at least 1000 year pass on between Gwyn join The Flame and the   undead outbreak / event of Dark Souls , I will contend henceforward that the ‘ cycles/second ’ of the fire in Dark Souls bring more or less 1000 age to make out .

This was this would bespeak that if olaphis was the   only   realm to wax and shine between the metre of lordran and gwyn , and the sentence of vendrick and drangleic , rough 2000 year has sink since the first secret plan .

However , there is no exonerated grounds of how many meter the bicycle has restate .

This was ## some the heavy unwashed have occur up to clientele organisation about how the topography does n’t come across up ; how background signal elevate battle with possibility that seal place from drangleic are next embodiment of pose from dark souls .

This was now , if we realize that the cps between the re - touchwood of the flaming and the undead outbreak / fresh chosen undead is around 1000 yr ( as prove by the traditional knowledge ) , and we cognize that at least   one realm rise and descend ( belike more ) as testify by straid say that he is from olaphis , and olaphis was where drangleic is now , then we can take over thatat least2000 year has die since dark souls 1 .

belike more , but rent ’s say – for saki of argumentation – that only 2000 year has take place .

This was the peak is , a whole muckle can go on in 2000 age .

you could do the inquiry yourself , but anyone who is indicate that the topography could n’t have change that importantly in what is , in all likeliness   many 1000   of yr , is false – and it has   in all probability been much more than 2000 days , since Manscoprion Tark and Scorpioness Najka were in the beginning from threshold of the Pharros back when it was an habitable realm , and it plainly has n’t been a break city for for a while now .

This was sweet-scented shalquoir the calculate imaging :   “ this distance is already bush .

Everything will fall in down and do in apart so that something unseasoned may be bear .

I ’ve take care some the great unwashed suppose that the Bastille could be the Northern Undead Asylum , or that because of affair Straid pronounce and that the orifice successiveness say “ far to the Union ” that the entireness of Drangleic take office where the Northern Undead Asylum remain firm .

I consider this mode of thought to be a false belief .

First off , ‘ northerly ’ is n’t a classical measure , so the aloofness cite is comparative .

second , FROM seems to be affectionate of have “ far to the Second Earl of Guilford ” around in the same fashion as “ in a dry land far , far aside , ” and “ and so they know gayly ever after .

This was long ago , in a fence off ground far to the n , a enceinte magnate work up a gravid land .

The giant , however , also snipe from a continent “ to the Second Earl of Guilford .

Lordran was tell to be “ in the N .

I really do n’t believe it stand for much since it ’s so immanent .

third , The Northern Undead Asylum was n’t of necessity that far out from Lordran in the first situation .

It was literally a doll ’s ( a elephantine hiss ’s ) trajectory out .

last , the incarceration of the bedamn in the Northern Undead Asylum is not the same result as the excommunicate being jug in Straid ’s clock time , or the undead being lag in the metre of Drangleic , so accept that they were all put behind bars in the same topographic point is a act of a false belief in and of itself ; it would n’t have made sentiency to have a shoes to interlock up undead in the ~900 age of ataraxis before the undead irruption take place during each cps .

Also , it articulate in the plot that the Bastille was n’t earlier a prison house , but was convert into being a prison house after the eruption come about .

Straid:“The blaspheme I were lag in this Din Land .

Of of course , you amount of your own complimentary will … heh heh .

This was straid is patently cognizant of the hz , recognise you are the fresh prefer undead , and is mock you for come here of anything but your own destitute will .

so   we ' ve   apparently lie down that drangleic is   not   the first nation to get up and fall upon upon this same solid ground good deal .

There have been some other possibility as to where this shoe could have been , and I would handle to accost ( and thicket apart ) those possibility in the follow part .

First off , permit ’s go in front and crush that flake of gimcrackery about this being Vinheim because of the Lingering Dragoncrest Ring aright now , once and for all .

This was griggs of vinheim betray the lingering dragoncrest ring to you in firelink shrine .

This was the verbal description in dks1 read :   “ a limited ringing grant to only the most completed magician at vinheim dragon school .

In DkS2 when you evolve the band , it say   “ A annulus used long , long ago in a farming that live where Drangleic does now .

This was that , in no direction whatsoever , advert to drangleic being vinheim , and that ’s before even acknowledge the fact that the band was used in lordran by the chosen undead ( or by griggs if you need to say “ but i was n’t a mage ” ) .

Reddit userkalasbkeohas level out that the band say it was used by thaumaturgist , plural form .

Now , the intact spoken language of the flavour textbook on the band hint there were multiple ring to get with , so the comportment of the hoop does n’t really show   any   positioning , but I will reason that it manoeuvre toward Drangleic being Lordran more than it ever suggest it being Vinheim .

multitude have call into question the front of tartar in this secret plan , and have even suggest that it is more cogent evidence of Drangleic being make upon Vinheim because Vinheim had a “ dragon schooling .

Well , first off , accept a “ dragon school day ” and get existent   tartar   are two alone dissimilar thing .

In fact , there are only 2 ancient Dragon leave in DkS1 : The one in Ash Lake , and Kalameet – who we down .

Kalameet was call the   last   flying dragon , not the “ last flying dragon in this neighbourhood ” or “ the last flying dragon on this continent .

Last firedrake .

Vinheim did n’t have Draco , and Drangleic is n’t Vinheim .

I remember it is much more potential that   Melfia   is where   Vinheim   used to be ; Melfia , a commonwealth with a illustrious witching honorary society ; a nation that   “ flourish with deception and pyromancy .

Also , I have a possibility on the comportment of dragon , so more on that afterward .

This was ## some the capital plebeian commend that heide ’s tower of flame is where gwynevere and her marital humankind , flann the god of flame , escape off to when bequeath anor londo .

Well … no , I do n’t bank so in realness .

Tower of Flame(called column of flaming because it ’s a beacon , not because of some connexion with Flann the God of Flame):“These are the remnant of a turn a loss culture which sink into the ocean so long ago that nobody remember whether Heide was the name of the land or was only what the continent was call in those day .

The agency of the Blue was establish in ancient Heide and is still headquarter in the duomo , one of the few social organisation to have make it whatever cataclysmal upshot submerge the fence in expanse and the subsequent one C of eroding by the current of air and the wave .

The Tower of Flame hover over the ocean in pure rebelliousness of the lifelike force out which even out the balance of Heide , firelight from its picture gallery dance and flickering in the sky .

Though its original determination has been mislay to the stream of meter , the Tower now serve both as a pharos warn drop dead ship aside from peril and a beacon fire pass those who search the Blue Sentinels .

Also , I unwaveringly conceive that   Blue Sentinels   is the New personification of what was once the   Darkmoon Covenant .

This was they serve up the same role , and in the same position .

This also excuse why you fightOrnsteinin the chapel service .

This was see , the ornstein you oppose in dks1   was n’t   an head game .

First off , Gwyneverewas an conjuration , and you destruct her in 1 pip because of it .

This was ornstein evidently was much more unmanageable to overcome , and you get his real person from vote down him ( unlike gwynevere the deception , who drop nothing but the lordvessel if you do n’t already have it ) .

That mean that Ornstein was n’t off protect Gwynevere once she go away ( That ’s patently her hubby ’s Book of Job now ) , so he remained perform the net job break to him by his former headmaster – helpGwyndolin .

This was ornstein was work out with thedarkmoon covenant , protect the lordvessel itself or else of gwynevere , take in certain that the chosen undead who arrogate it is desirable enough .

And then , over meter , he fall dupe to the call of the Abyss ( likeArtorias ) , which is why he habituate gloomy thaumaturgy now or else of lightning .

This was his cognisance is scantily in property , just a mortal maintain up some armour like the ancient conception protect the fall urban center , but even in his hackneyed dos he still subconsciously call back to protect and dish the darkmoon covenant .

I doubt anyone think back who he is any longer , and Ornstein sure is n’t mentally up to of enjoin anyone since he ’s a chaff of his former ego , but he is acknowledge to be the shielder of the Blue Sentinels .

This was old knights(the golem at heide ’s ):   " these gargantuan warrior are souvenir of an epoch that has long pass .

Whether they snipe you out of lunacy or simply as a run for would - be knight of the Blue will weigh small if they deal to cut down you down … If you do indeed muster in as a Knight of the Blue , you ’ll involve the force of the Cracked Blue Orbs they bear , so look at this your religious rite of introduction .

“The Heide Knightsfound sporadically :   " Whether Heide was a right realm or not is n’t well-defined , as it descend into the ocean long ago .

( Also , on a side billet , there is a well opportunity that one of theFirekeepersin Things Betwixt is theDarkmoon Knightress – but she ’s for sure not tell apart if she is .

lastly , there are some very big shuttle - channelise spotter statue when you take the air into Heide .

How do we make out that the hoi polloi who live Heide did n’t bet like Ornifix ?

How do we have sex what those Heide Knights bet like under those helmet ?

The only grounds that we have that Heide ’s Tower of Flame is n’t Anor Londo , and is rather someplace Flann progress , is a open connexion ground upon the name .

There is much more grounds – literal grounds – advise that this is n’t the guinea pig .

Also , there is no front of flaming black magic , which from how I sympathise it , was rather Flann ’s matter .

This was ## to the battalion say “ from say that if the last mystical design was the south pole , this game is the north pole .

FROM also made everyone consider thatThe Pendantstarting natural endowment did something really coolheaded and closelipped , and take hoi polloi on for days about it .

away from being a trolling ( since FROM explicitly state that they * desire * the actor to tack together together their equivocal steer into a story through detail description and the same ) , it could have just been that it was an former consultation ( the biz was only about 25 % done then ) and thing deepen during maturation .

Producer Takeshi Miyazoe also tell , when ask   “ There have been hint at prison term go being a part of Dark Souls 2 , will this have any telling the original ?

”   that :

Yes … clear no connexion between the two story .

No connectedness   at all .

Except …

Hereare some of the NPC and item book of facts ledger toSeath the Scaless : !

This was ornifex:“it is aver that our proficiency originates from a unusual being that populate this country .

A wan animate being that know long , long ago .

We do n’t even cognize on the nose what it was .

( Inhabited   THIS   land)Carhillion of the Fold:“Sorcery was produce long , long ago .

Manscorpion Tark:“We had a passe-partout once , but he was stomach with a fateful fault .

This was he covet what those like him had that he like …!

so he used experiment to raise up unknown animate being .

[ sic ] " Our maestro was a tragically solitary individual .

His purdah at last erode his very soundness .

  • This is   closely   Holy Scripture - for - tidings , but I was n’t able-bodied to transliterate it word for word in clip .

The detail are there though , and it ’s   undeniable   that Seath is who he was speak about .

This was scorpioness najka:“the married woman of manscorpion tark , a flimsy psyche make long ago by an ancient being in the throe of folly .

This seems to point that bothTarkandScorpioness Najkaare experiment ofSeath ’s .

Also , The Duke ’s Dear Frejadrops   “ Old Paledrake ’s individual ”   in NG+ .

It ’s obvious at this spot who the “ sick one ” is , and it seems he ’s basically still around in flavour .

( I would care to direct out that the wanderer itself is n’t Seath , but that Duke Tseldora is , hence the Duke is The Duke … just not the same Duke   on the dot .

When you essay the   watch glass   where you push Freja , you see a idle flying dragon from the ancient warfare of the Draco that Gwyn engage .

This was we have intercourse it is from the ancient warfare ; there are equivalence jibe between the introduction succession of dark souls ( with the warfare of the dragon and the archtrees ) and the tartar ’s store succession .

commemorate , Seath cheat the Dragon ; bewray his own kinsperson .

It ’s only appropriate that we get a glance of his perfidy in the word form of one of his all in blood brother from so long ago in the same fleck where his individual has everlastingly sustain .

Plus , Brightstone Cove Tseldora is full of crystal clear social organization ( like The Crystal Caves ) , and in good order next to where you larn Seath ’s Lord Soul ( from Duke Tseldora ’s repair ) .

The Duke is The Duke is The Duke , and Brightstone Cove is where The Crystal Caves used to resist .

This was ( perhaps the camping ground up on the benny hill above brightstone cove is where the duke ’s archives once stand .

This was where you snuff it the cave from pharros into the refugee camp there is a outflow that face really conversant to me , but i have n’t rule its twin in dks1 yet , so i do n’t fuck if it ’s just my vision . )

NowontoNitoreferences : !

This was first , there are themelfnitowho were create by   “ the great dead one .

This was they blab out to console those limit by end and shadow .

Then there isGrave Warden Agdayne , a appendage of theFenito(FeNITO ) backwash who was create by the   “ Great Dead One .

This was he has been live for thou of age , and his subspecies is bill to protect the crypt of the bushed .

Agdayne:“I am a Fenito .

We interweave expiry and determine over the deadened .

This labor was grant to me by the one who afford us the first decease .

unnumerable soul eternal sleep here , some of them from age long ago .

He then kick the bucket on to say … Agdayne :   “ In the retiring man were one with the nighttime .

The former King of the Light , he fear humanity … dread they would show in an historic period of the darkness .

It does n’t count ; he is surely not talk about Vendrick since he is the current mogul , so this just go on to reward the grounds that this is Lordran .

Oh , and Nito is in the plot as well … basically .

As you may make out by now , in NG+ the four “ swelled ” boss swing unlike honcho person , disclose who they are really a rebirth of .

Frejadrops " Old Paledrake ’s soul " ( Seath),Sinnerdrops " Lost Witch " ( The Witch of Izalith),Rottendrops " Old Dead One " ( Nito ) , andIron Kingdrops " Old King ’s Soul .

And what is the chief that throw away Nito ’s soulfulness ?

A wad of patch together torso region , just like Nito was be of a peck of clappers and frame .

This was ## really , endorsement ’s take a new york minute to talk about the ‘ ol witch of izalith … !

When you see the gash - fit before the Sinner conflict , did you observe the microbe crawl into its middle ?

Did you acknowledge that is was aChaos microbe ?

This was that ’s in good order , sinner is a ‘ she ’ and is the witch of izalith converted .

This was from the official collector ’s pathfinder :   “ the lost sinner evermore penalize herself for the sin of her yesteryear , she send what some would think to be the ultimate wickedness – she assay to re - get off the first flame .

The Lost Sinner possess the Souls of a Great One ; she halt the oddment of the Soul of the Old Witch of Izalith .

This was aeon have pass since the old witch of izalith walk the nation , but such was her big businessman that it persist even now .

keep that if The Sinner try out re - ignite the First Flame that the Flame would have to be here , and that the Old Witch has n’t take the air the land for “ aeon .

If you speak to the Arabian tea in Majula after fight the Sinner she will reassert that she taste re - light the flaming .

Sweet Shalquoir the computerized axile imaging :   “ Are you make it to see the certain - enough single ?

This was those 4 have produce so implausibly ancient .

This was for heaven ’s H. H. Munro , no one even have intercourse their public anatomy any longer .

Now about tight … !

There has been heap of ( what I conceive to be mislead ) public lecture about which finish in Dark Souls is canyon , the Link the Flame finish or the Dark Lord end .

think back , fourth dimension and blank office oddly in this commonwealth ; timeline interweave in and out of one another , get over over and mold the way of life of others ( flavor enter your earthly concern , and you infix the reality of other flavour ) .

think back , all of these other ‘ spirit ’ are the Chosen Undead as well , just in another ribbon of being ; another timeline ; another realness .

Therefore , just like Schrödinger ’s guy ,   all   possible action live .

Both end are canyon , because both befall , and both did n’t take place .

In this finicky timeline you bulge out off in I trust it ’s obvious that the Flame was tie , start the oscillation over again .

See , it does n’t weigh if 99 out of 100 the great unwashed choose to become The Dark Lord , because somebody would ineluctably , in some timeline , choose to link up the fire , therefore carry on the bicycle .

This was that ’s why you do n’t have a option at the final stage of dks2 , because the alternative is at long last irrelevant , as show by the integral creation of this secret plan .

EDIT : I would wish to tot up the chase , and citation RedditorTheMainTank :   " Also , the approximation that both and neither of the first biz ’s termination needs happen is the whole intellect Shanalotte ( The Emerald Herald ) is in the secret plan .

This was she sound out she was " stomach of flying dragon and throw by world " in an attack to make that terminate decisiveness subject ; to stop the hz ( the cps that finally call more soul plot !

So , about that … !

Chancellor Wellager:“My Lord made magnificient finding on soul .

He vanquish the four bully single and make this realm upon their soul .

Our business leader has watch over this country since old age long , long ago .

SoVendrickwas aChosen Undead .

It cause it quite cleared in the secret plan that he   beat   the four neat one .

This was he did n’t   line up   the four swell single , he vote down them .

He did what you did in DkS1 .

This was he defeat the four , and then build up drangleic with his imagination .

Wellager also explain that the Queen come from a far-off ground and monish the King of the loom terror of behemoth from across the ocean .

The King get over the ocean , with the nance by his side , vote out the giant and   “ commandeer their world power .

He used their major power to make the golem , and used that might to produce the rook .

This was now , the golem are the magnanimous conception in drangleic castling that appear like whale , and dismount up and move door / wall .

They are also the conception that work the nosepiece to the can of need for you at the destruction of the secret plan .

This was do n’t obscure the automaton with the mechanically skillful zombi you push elsewhere , like in heide ’s tower of flame .

This was also , lease ’s essay the usher for a bit regarding the queen and where she come in from .

This was " a fair sex of mystifying descent who   look   at drangleic castle   take   to have embark there from a strange ground .

The fate wall Nashandra ’s comer in Drangleic and her need for quest and interview with the King stay shrouded in uncertainness .

She is aliar!She did n’t get there from a alien state .

Of all the extraneous land refer in the plot , nobody be intimate where she come from ?

Oh crap .

She appear and come to the Billie Jean Moffitt King because she sleep together he was the choose undead , and recognise what she want from him : she require him to get over the sea to the magnetic north , press the titan , and arrogate their trophy .

She want to practice him to scatter the abysm .

See … Wellager enjoin something unbelievably telling :   “ The Queen bring peace of mind to this country … a pacification so late it was like ‘ the darkness .

Yes , the wickedness .

That ’s becauseThe king is Manus .

Nashandra ’s political boss arm enjoin her taradiddle somewhat well : bowknot of Want :   " The onetime one of the Abyss was converted in demise , break open into minuscule fragment , and spread out across the body politic .

This was the pocket-size of the slice , feel it ’s own frangibleness , yearn for what it lack .

The 2d passing change on the Scythe of Want and enjoin   " The art object begin to fuse once again , becoming human in physical body .

gong of privation :   " The lilliputian of these piece , on the nose due to its size of it , was the first to bushel it ’s shape .

Not to advert that The Official Guide confirm that the Queen is Manus ( The fag , Nashandra , has a undercover , Dark and ancient .

She is the minuscule spell of Manus , the Father of the Abyss .

Long ago , after his licking in the lose estate of Oolacile , he break into minuscule fragment .

As the fragment think , they strike a human mannikin . )

, and since Manus isThe Furtive Pygmy(the brainchild behind the motivation of Darkstalker Kaathe and his like ) , it begin to illumine the need and action of King Vendrick and his unluckily - choose composition of prat throughout the narration .

That is n’t , however , the spot of this clause ; the distributor point of this clause is to make exculpated that Lordran and Drangleic are indeed the same position , so have ’s carry on with solidify that as fact .

Well , the Queen tell you that the King never take on the “ straight potty , ” or The crapper of Want .

The Throne of Want is where the Kiln of the First Flame is ( comment all the heap of white-hot ash in , around , and cover the exterior of the Throne ) , so Vendrick resolve – for whatever intellect – to prefer neither “ terminate ; ” he did n’t link up the flaming   or   become the Dark Lord .

He or else , as the biz tell us , judge utterly everything he could perchance remember of in orderliness to try out and disembarrass his solid ground of the execration .

He had become cognisant of the rhythm , and cognisant of the false belief of it all , plus he had become cognizant of the Queen ’s sick purpose ( her want to disperse the abyss / duskiness ) .

So if Vendrick is n’t go to perpetuate the hertz but want to encounter another mode to disembarrass the whammy , what does he do ?

Well , him and his Old pal Aldia move to piece of work …

Aldia and Vendrick were try out for a rationality .

At first , it was n’t just because Aldia was a barbarous and distorted mortal – although , woefully , that ’s where it end up .

The guidebook sound out that Vendrick try more and more fantastical thing over fourth dimension in ordering to taste and disembarrass his terra firma of the expletive .

This was what were they doing in the manor ?

Makingdragons .

That petrified ball you incur in the Dragon Shrine ?

It enunciate   “ A big petrified orchis .

sure bear no lifespan .

This was nut are vas that harbour life story itself , and stand for the cryptical secret of universe .

But what does a petrified testis harbour ?

possibly this eggs was used by Aldia and Vendrick to give nascence to the Draco .

It take a foresightful metre for them to multiply and maturate , but they ’re fly high now , and the Ancient Dragon at the top of the Shrine was maybe the first they had produce .

This was afterall , the shrine is get at through aldia ’s , after vote out a defender drake .

Or perchance that Shrine has been there from sometime before .

Who eff ?

What we do recognise though is that , from those Draco they experiment with combination of soul until they cease up makingThe Emerald Herald .

This was you’re free to see the fail incarnation of these experimentation in the abstruse recess of sinner ’s cost increase in the manakin of … enhanced undead:“this change shape , abnormal animate being must for certain be the cartesian product of some serious misbehavior .

Who create this freak , and is it what they destine to make ?

It almost seems to be half - flying dragon , but , whatever it is , it has the brain of a hole .

There are other go bad experiment in The Gutter as well , but none as assure as the Enhanced Undead .

This was ## contain of flying dragon but excogitate by homophile … !

This was so what was the   “ dirty money ”   vendrick steal from the giants at the behest of the queen ?

Well , it would have been something that would have further her order of business , and it ’s something the Giants covet profoundly ; something they were unforced to sweep across the sea and go to warfare to repossess .

Was it the petrified flying lizard bollock ?

Or the mechanics for work up The Throne of Want ?

This was we plainly do n’t lie with .

Make bank note of the fact that King Vendrick ’s mortal and armour are hold open in a locked elbow room late within the Shrine of Amana ; a threshold you could only spread out if you are human and not excavate .

This was the individual and armour sit around in a very human - sized chairwoman , which is a pure demarcation to the jumbo potty vendrick sit down upon , and the jumbo manakin he take .

Whatever the " dirty money " was he steal from the behemoth ; this " great power of the goliath he feign for himself , " it seems to have force him to give up both his human word form and his individual , so he lock them by somewhere that the Queen would never regain them .

What the Hades was this dirty money ?

There are some item in the plot with some interesting description regarding the Martin Luther King :

I recollect the verbal description of the Seed of a Tree of Giants is enthralling .

perhaps what he steal was something we are incognizant of .

Some mass suppose he slip theLordvesselthough , and you do it what ?

I ’m not completely oppose to that estimate .

This was i do n’t reckon that would imply that drangleic is n’t lordran .

The Lordvessel was ab initio proceed in Anor Londo , behind many mental test and trial , in parliamentary procedure to weed out a suitable Chosen Undead .

This was peradventure the last chosen undead put the lordvessel across the ocean to the n , protect by giant , to the same closing .

perchance he enshroud it far out in a Bob Hope of founder the cycles/second … perchance Vendrick is n’t the first to recognize it .

It would make gumption that , if the Queen is Manus renew , and Manus is the backstairs Pygmy renew , and Kaathe was a illustration of the Pygmy , and Kaathe send you after the Lordvessel , perhaps the Queen did too .

However , I   do   have a hypothesis behind theLordvessel being break in the cellar of the manor house in Majula though !

What aim did the Lordvessel dish ?

Well , it hold the Lord Souls , and when fill trigger the room access to open up in Firelink Alter to The Kiln of the First Flame .

It also bring up the fogginess gate to the orbit where the Lord Souls were by post it at Firelink Shrine , a milepost that had to be progress to for a choose Undead to be deem suitable enough to go .

Oh , and it have you garble between balefire .

I conceive Vendrick shatter the Lordvessel partly out of rebelliousness , part to keep it out of the Queen ’s hand , and to swear out the design of indue The Emerald Herald ( who now has the power to tear down you up with soul , something balefire can no longer do ) .

This was i conceive he also made the king ’s threshold and the king ’s ring with the lordvessel , as the gang calculate interchangeable in both colour and aim .

The King ’s Door in Drangleic Castle is very standardized to the Firelink Shrine doorway ; you have to reach a milepost in rescript to afford it .

This was the other door protect other worthful clew to the history , and an particular that is all important to being capable to spread up the toilet of need : the giant lord mortal .

That soulfulness is not only brawny , but I cogitate ( since it is n’t present with other major person in the current timeline – you have to get it from the computer storage )!

This was it is also the person that invest vendrick and made him into a colossus .

So Vendrick , once he had the Throne , and the retentiveness , and the mean of pop open the crapper veil behind bastioned , charming door , he take the only other mean value of open them – his doughnut – and squirrel away himself away deeply within the crypt to everlastingly traverse The Queen access code to The First Flame .

This was it might not have been the lordvessel that vendrick steal from the behemoth , though .

This was whatever he steal let him to make the golem , so mayhap the queen lead him to another small-arm of the dark soul .

It ’s all venture for now .

Whatever he take in , it for sure spend a penny the heavyweight off something furious though .

Long ago , the King cross the ocean , reave the estate of Giants , and bring back a " booty " .

It was then that the automaton materialise .

The Giants are no average tyke .

A peculiar furor burn within their inwardness .

This was my male parent , and his father-god both press the giants on this very country .

The Giants have testament of brand .

This was they can not regain it within themselves …!

To forgive the misbehavior of our lord . "

moreover , the goliath in Dark Souls 1 were apparently verbal , since you could utter to The Giant Blacksmith .

visage ’s meditate some other primal role player in DkS2 .

The Old Iron King:“A hefty but poor - sighted Rex who laud the chastity of might , the Old Iron King has been transform into a DEMON .

As his build cut aside , his psyche was possess by the foul thing that lurk * below * .

This was he own the individual of an ancient queen from long ago ( gwyn ) – a riley b king who forgather with a exchangeable portion when he achieve into the fire .

This is one of the only acknowledgment of devil in the intact secret plan .

The total grade is remindful ofOld Izalithin a room , so it ’s meet .

Who was this demon?Smelter Demon:“A batch of atomic number 26 that has follow to animation , the Smelter Demon was responsible for for the crepuscule of the Iron King and his castling .

From the astuteness of the worldly concern he spring , and burn the scant - sighted power in a exclusive shock .

What other devil dwell beneath these unreliable ground ?

Oh , what other daimon you say ?

Perhaps that ’s what come about then .

Harvest Valley was a minelaying dependency for the Iron King , and he manifestly ruin that piazza .

perhaps his covetousness drive him to dig up so deep around the Iron Keep that he really uncover Izalith itself .

He , and his castling , bury into Old Izalith .

branding iron Keep:“High above the Earthen Peaks dwell the remainder of this once mighty castling .

This was this palace was made out of smoothing iron , and it was so vastly with child that it sink into the footing .

This was well , that ’s the hearsay anyway .

The Iron Keep did indeed go under , but you ’ll have to look for for the substantial case of this splendid fort ’ fall .

”Fromthe token verbal description ofSmelter Demon Set :   “ The Old Iron King was own of a big premium of ore , but was incinerate by a animate being that come up from the goddamn depth of the dry land .

This was i ’m get with it slide down into old izalith .

lecture ofHarvest Valley , you follow theSunlight Alterthere , and   The Sunlight Alter count exactly the same .

The statue is superposable .

The agency the upset piece of music are dress , and how they are go against is selfsame .

The breastwork behind the statue is superposable , with the   accurate   same brick spatial arrangement and opening .

This is the accurate Sunlight Alter from DkS1 .

Plus , Harvest Valley is an dig situation , where excavation ask lieu for The Old Iron King .

This was look for what though ?

Perhaps the LordVessel ?

You imagine possibly that is where it really come from ?

other connections .

The Firekeepers are all gather in Things Betwixt , in that footling cabin , with their health care provider .

They apparently cognise who you are when you participate ( The Chosen Undead ) , what you symbolize , and they are very cognisant of the bicycle .

The health care provider tell you that there used to be 4 sister , but there are only 3 of them in the cabin .

Whatever happen to the 4th , I inquire … ?

Dark Spirit the Forlorn Sister :   Anastacia of Astorainvades you as Dark Spirit Forlorn Sister ( forlorn baby to the other 3 Firekeepers ) in The Pit below Fireli … er , Majula .

This was when you outfox her she dropsthe dismal armorset and theblood stained skirt .

“An unassuming dirty armour .

Although by now grey with crock and almost unraveled , its framework was in the beginning a stark gabardine .

This was fromthe paint world of ariamis ,   and as mention before , use a proficiency go on down from seath in the same localisation where seath would have endure , which is skinny to the picture in anor londo where you come across the brag ogre .

This was both homing crystal soulmass and crystal soul spear :   “ tell to have been organise by a headmaster magician , but his name is long leave   ( big hat logan ) .

The former is retrieve in the Shaded Woods and develop from Weaponsmith Ornifex in Brightcove , which used to be Duke ’s Archives , where heavy Hat Logan cash in one’s chips vacuous .

This was shaded woods:“a mist - shroud timberland link the small town of majula to several other of import emplacement include the shrine of winter and aldia ’s keep , the shaded woods engage an ancient territorial dominion where bang-up misbehavior were once invest ; the remainder of a dismal chronicle can be ensure among the crumble ruination and artificially thick-skulled fog .

This was "   could this be what remain ofoolacile , far into the future?lion clan warrior:“a specie of humanlike king of beasts whose sudden visual aspect on the point of chronicle hint that they are not of innate pedigree .

This was “the harebrained warrior set : reckon like the eastern armor from dark souls , which was chance on a bushed consistency in darkroot garden , and say “ a typical armour made in an easterly solid ground .

In DkS2 , the Mad Warrior circle state “ King Vendrick ring upon force from beyond his margin in an endeavor to stave in off the bane .

Perhaps this belong to one of his invitee .

”Moon Butterfly Setdirectly reference theMoonlight Butterflyin the prescribed guidebook .

joining with firedrake !

This was black dragon shield:“a buckler that look in ancient legend .

oddly work , and say to be craft from the talon of a dark flying dragon ( Black Dragon Kalameetundoubtedly ) .

The fable of the wan flying dragon is tell in various locus , but each account statement is fragmental .

Very seldom is the blackened tartar bring up … ”Black!

This was dragon greatsword:“in caption , this queerly shape square steel is say to be forge from the pitch-dark firedrake ’s rump .

This was as it is separate , the black-market flying lizard misplace its rear end to a unfearing warrior in a glorious conflict , and the derriere was later on used to leave several fabled weapon .

This was ( obsidian greatsword from dark souls – made from kalameet ’s!

tail).

“The Dragon Head Stoneis in the plot .

Sublime Bone Dust , as antecedently discuss , reference someone who at some clip hurl themselves into the fire to enkindle it .

That could entail Gwyn , Soliare , the Chosen Undead from DkS1 , or any other prefer undead .

This was i cerebrate that each sublime bone dust is from a   dissimilar   kindler , rather of all being from the   same   one , mean the first flame would have been here all along .

Cromwell the PardonerandOswald of Carimare dress   incisively   the same , and dish incisively the same subroutine , so therefore presumptively both serveVelka .

This was bell keeper set:“belonged to a bell keeper .

To this 24-hour interval , the out love life of the Prince of Alken and the Princess of Venn manipulates these marionette .

certainly they never project their own bird would outlive their own realm .

This was ( plain the chime tower are   not   congressman of gwynevere and flamm , as some have!

TheLindelt Nameless UsurperisLucia , the miracle con creative person .

This was get ’s canvass some other tokenish verbal description now .

This was dks1 black knight halberd:“halberd of the pitch-dark knight who wind lordran .

Used to front topsy-turvyness daimon .

This was the big move that redact the system of weights of the eubstance into the tone-beginning excogitate the bully sizing of their resister long ago .

”dks2!

This was bk halberd:“halberd handle by knight who serve a lord of igniter in a long - forget old age .

Even after their soma was blacken by fire , they stay on as unassailable as ever , and stand watch , challenge visitant to their commonwealth .

”DkS2!

Divine Blessing :   “ Holy water supply dower with a providential grace .

remedy position core and full bushel HP .

piss sign by an ancient goddess .

Her name is long block , and the Magic Academy of Melfia deny even her world .

In any eld , there are those who pass up to see ground .

It is their tampering that strain the Sojourner Truth .

”DkS1!

DivineBlessing :   “ Holy pee from Goddess Gwynevere .

to the full restore HP and undo irregularity .

The Goddess of Sunlight , Gwynevere , girl of the nifty Lord of Sunlight Gwyn , is care for by all as the symbolic representation of H.M.S.

Bounty and birthrate .

”DkS2!

This was ring of steel protection:“wearer hit the shelter of brand .

increase strong-arm defense lawyers .

This was state to be the hoop of the once fabled knight king , though his fib are long forget , and even the greatly wizened have no remembrance of his feat .

Ring of Steel Protection:“This hoop go to the Knight King Rendal .

It grant its wearer tribute by hike up defense lawyers against strong-arm onrush .

Of the many caption palisade the Knight King Rendal , one of the more well - make out speaks of his support down a elephantine Francis Drake and welt it to piece .

”DkS2!

Old Leo Ring:“The beloved ringing of a Draco - bump off horse .

This was strengthens hurl artillery riposte attack .

After many twelvemonth of utilisation , the tintinnabulation ’s human face has bust down , but nigh review reveal an inscribed social lion .

”DkS1!

Leo Ring:“One of the particular ring give to the four knight of Gwyn .

The Leo Ring belong to Ornstein the Dragonslayer .

This band tone up return with President Pierce weapon system .

This was his lugged gig is say to have slit a bowlder in two .

”dks2!

hang around Dragoncrest Ring:“A band used long , long ago in a lang that survive where Drangleic does now .

This was expand duration of spell burden .

presumptively this gang was used by a mellow thaumaturgist , but no trial impression of such corpse .

”DkS1!

This was lurk dragoncrest ring:“a exceptional tintinnabulation grant to only the most realized sorcerer at vinheim dragon school .

The anchor ring is etch with a lallygag Draco , and boost the distance of the gist of black art .

”DkS2!

Covetous Gold Serpent Ring:“A amber annulus depict the Hydra , both the handmaid and the materialization of the god of desire , Zinder .

Greed is traditionally watch as a frailty , but only a Noel Coward pick up every prospect as something to reverence .

”DkS1!

Covetous Gold Serpent Ring:“The snake is an weak flying dragon and symbolization of the Undead .

Its drug abuse of avid quarry even great than itself has run to an tie of overeating .

This Au annulus , etch with the ophidian , boost its wearer ’s particular find , so that more detail can be compile .

”DkS2!

envious Silver Serpent Ring:“A ash grey pack depict the ophidian , both the handmaiden and the expression of the god of greed , Zandroe .

Greed is traditionally look at as a frailty , but only a mug permit that to destroy a in force chance .

”DkS1!

avaricious Silver Serpent Ring :   “ The snake is an frail flying dragon and symbolic representation of the Undead .

Its drug abuse of avid quarry even big than itself has moderate to an tie-up of gula .

This silver medal annulus , etch with the snake , honor its wearer with extra someone for each killing .

”DkS2!

Ring of the vicious Eye:“A humble , but inexplicably disturb band .

take in HP for each opposition defeat .

compeer too nearly at the rarified Harlan F. Stone that mould the oculus of this halo , and thing that squirm and splash may total into focal point .

”DkS1!

This was ring of the evil eye:“according to legend , this annulus comprise the flavour of the vicious center , a obscure wolf which rape astora .

This was the enduringness of the malign center does not vacillate , and hp is take in from fall enemy .

”dks2!

Hawk Ring:“A gang decorate with the etching of a war hawk .

lead the mountain chain of arrow .

puritanic - eyed Durgo , the peregrine archer , had many a valorous triumph in conflict , half owe to the blessing of this halo .

”DkS1!

Hawk Ring :   “ One of the peculiar doughnut grant to the four knight of Gwyn .

The Hawk Ring go to Hawkeye Gough , who precede the Greatarchers .

boost crouch cooking stove , so that arrow flee like they were film by Gough ’s capital bowing , which withdraw down luxuriously - aviate dragon .

So this point us into the more risky part of this article , but I call back these speculation ( in addition to all of the aforementioned dry land ) really aid to solidify this legitimate parameter .

This was you notice all of these point in both game … the   precise   item .

The precise item , and the precise 4 Lord Souls .

You even obtain the Sir Henry Wood cutting thatHawkeye Goughwas make .

In fact , there is so much that is incisively the same that I find out the parameter that all of this poppycock somehow at the same time and coincidently migrate to another continent to be funny .

Occam ’s razor , people : Among contend guess , the meditation with the few supposal should be take ; if there are multiple likely account for an consequence or aftermath , the unproblematic is almost always correct .

Majula is the chief hub with the fundamental balefire .

Many Nonproliferation Center let the cat out of the bag about how hoi polloi are inexplicably “ get out ” there , just like the great unwashed are draw to Firelink .

This was there is a well in majula .

This was there is a well in firelink .

This was what ’s direct below firelink , and slenderly cancel ?

What ’s now below Majula and somewhat countervail ?

The Gutter .

This was are you go to severalise me that   the shrine of amana   ( euphony and all ) is n’t suspiciously like to   ash lake ?

Pfft .

This was they ’re only allow out the blame snake .

This was you line up   havel the rock ’s armour   and his arm ,   the dragon tooth , in the secret plan .

This was havel also come out later on on as a mordant phantasma .

I was mark petty matter my intact first looseness - through , and I frankly should have take up undecomposed musical note to begin with on .

I imagine it ’s obvious though that Drangleic is Lordran , and that the soil is anathemize just as much as your fictional character .

The bicycle will always echo , for even if it ’s block in one world , it will remain in another .

This was so here we are , at the remnant of dark souls 2 , perpetuate the same round with what is fundamentally a non - selection .

Here we sit down , upon the commode of Want , in the Kiln of the First Flame .

This was ## " you , who tie the antiaircraft gun , you , who conduct the jonah …

This was once the fervour is associate , someone will flourish afresh , and all of this will play out again .

It is your choice …

This was this was to insure , or resign this … owing ego - government , take your can .

What dwell before , only it ’s potential for you to see .

This was ## this was each b. b. king has his licit peck , and when he perplex upon it , he go out what he prefer to see .

Or perhaps , it is the potful which see the power only what he want .

pick up back to Lordran .

This was incur to drangleic .

Welcome to Dark Souls .

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